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Victor Davis Hanson

Observations about the war

Last week’s quiet

I just returned to Kuwait, and have been in Iraq visiting forward operating bases in Anbar and Diyala provinces, as well as suburbs of Baghdad the last week, hence the recent silence on this blog given sporadic internet facilities in Iraq. I hope to post a series of observations. But for now here are a few initials impressions from my second visit to the country. (Please excuse the typos, writing in haste from Kuwait City)

Better News?

Almost all the Marines and Army units I visited from Ramadi to Taji to various hot spots in Baghdad and Diyala believe there has been a sudden shift in the pulse of battlefield. Sometimes without much warning thousands of once disgruntled Sunni have turned on al Qaeda, ceased resistance, and are flocking to join government security forces and begging the Americans to stop both al Qaeda and Shiite militias.

Commanders in the field are cautious. They know that if the Shiite dominated government in Baghdad stays vengeful for decades of past suffering at the hands of Sunni Baathists, the reconciliation will fail. So thousands of American officers are desperately pressuring ministries to start distributing the vast wealth of Iraq’s $80 a barrel oil revenues to Anbar and Diyala before the Sunni revert back to insurgency.

The U.S. military

The brilliance of U.S. army and marines officers has not been fully appreciated. I met scores with PhDs and MAs, from Majors to Colonels, who are literally all at once trying to defeat al Qaeda gangs and Shiite militias, rebuild government facilities, arbitrate tribal feuds, repair utilities and train Iraqi army and police. As was true of the last trip to Iraq, I am left with three general impressions about the military.

(1) Our army and marines are far too few and overextended. The United States must either radically increase the size of these traditional ground units or scale back its commitments in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East.
Through constant rotations, we are literally burning out gifted officers and lifetime professionals— and will lose their priceless expertise if they begin, as I fear, retiring en masse due to the sheer exhaustion.

(2) There is more optimism about success among the battlefield soldiers than present with analysts in Baghdad. The sudden decrease in violence has left many units stunned that Iraqis who used to try to kill them are suddenly volunteering information about terrorists and landmines, and clamoring to join the joint security force. Usually those behind the desk are the optimists, the soldiers who die the pessimists. But instead there is genuine feeling on the front that after four frustrating years of ordeal, at last there are tangible signs of real, often radical improvement.

(3) As a supporter of some four years of the now unpopular effort to remove Saddam and leave a democracy in his place, I continue to have only one reservation, albeit a major one. The U.S. soldier in the field is so unusually competent and heroic that one comes to despair at the very thought of losing even one of them. As a military historian I know that an army that can’t take casualties can’t win, but I confess after spending 16-hour days with our soldiers in impossible conditions one wonders whether the entire country of Iraq is worth the loss of just of these unusual Americans. I understand both the lack of logic and perhaps amorality in such a sweeping statement, but feel it nonetheless out here.

The complexity of the effort

The military is pulling out all the stops. Some examples. They have flown Vietnam-era veterans to lecture on counter-insurgency in their school at Taji, in addition to clinic psychologists and veterans of recent wars from Panama to Afghanistan. The problem is now not too few interpreters, but too many trying to join us. Some of the best are Iraqi-Americans, who know American idiom and deeply appreciate being an American.

Hundreds are working on IEDs, not just counter-technologies and aerial surveillance, but sophisticated methods of learning how they are made, how the bombers function, and how they are paid and maintained. Thousands of other reserve and retired engineers have come to Iraq to build and advise Iraqi contractors. I met a fascinating engineer in his mid-fifties who volunteered to return to the Marines and is now supervising the reconstruction of the governmental center in Ramadi.

Again, they are trying not just to defeat the insurgency, but to literally take Iraq from its primordial past to the twenty-first century within four years. A Herculean Task.

Mythologies

A common slur is that Halliburton is looting the treasury and contractors in Iraq are greedy profiteers. I again found the opposite to be true. Thousands of construction personnel build bases, road, and Iraqi facilities, sometimes under fire, but living with the notion of shelling or shooting any minute. I consider them more likely under- rather than overpaid.

Iraq is not a poor country. Flying over the Tigris-Euphrates valley (I speak now a farmer) is unlike anything in Kuwait or Saudi Arabia. The soil is rich, the water plentiful and the dry climate perfect for intensive agriculture. That the country in theory within a year or two could pump well over three million barrels of petroleum a day, gives some indication of just how badly Iraq has been run the last forty years to screw up such natural bounty of a country—the Baathist-terror state, the attack on Iran, the massacres of Kurdish and Shiite innocents, the 1991 Gulf War, the no-fly zones and UN embargo, et al.

Next posting…

Hope to leave Kuwait tonight and post more on Iraq—some thoughts on our chances of winning, the nature of our colonels in the field, an interview with General Petraeus, the real Al Qaeda (or what Sunnis who once joined them now say about them) and other observations. .. Again, excuse the typos, since I write in haste.

Postscript

Hope to post tomorrow. One final thought. I must emphasize that we as a country have to support those in the field of fire. They believe not just that we can win by securing Iraq, but that they are doing a moral good by giving millions a chance of something quite different. Whatever one’s views on the war are, it seems to me morally reprehensible that anyone would slander an American soldier, whether comparing them to terrorists or their General to a betrayer. We have a very rare precious resource in today’s military that really does represent the moral upper crust of American society, and as long as it is engaged, we need to support it. We may come to the day that the military itself thinks victory is beyond our resources or not worth the cost, but from what I saw this week, as in 2006, we are not there at that day yet by a long shot.

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Comments (49)

TBranin :

Love ya, Doc!

I hang on your every word because I know of no one else anywhere who knows as much and gives the unvarnished.

Oct 6, 2007 07:42 AM

Allison Aller :

Thank you so much for bringing your eyes, ears, and mind to the situation in Iraq and reporting back to us. Very, very much appreciated.

Oct 6, 2007 08:34 AM

David Thomson :

"So thousands of American officers are desperately..."

These officers should also contact their relatives and friends to put pressure on the self-hating Americans within the Democratic Party and their Ron Paul Republican allies who are jeopardizing their mission in Iraq. Democrats especially cannot effectively fight the war on terror and the thugs in Iraq because of their existential unease dealing with racial issues. The fact that our enemies in the Middle East are rarely blue eyed and blond haired discombobulates them. This factor may be more important then their ingrained dishonest pacifism.

Oct 6, 2007 11:05 AM

a Duoist :

Stateside, several recent news stories and interviews with Iraqis reveal an inability of the Iraqi government to spend their oil funds on local projects. Corruption does not seem to be the inhibiting problem; there is simply no civil infrastructure to build physical infrastructure.

Related: Where is entrepreneurism in Iraq? If the oil funds are not invested in capital stock, the Arabs of Iraq will become like the Arabs of Wahhab-Saudi Arabia: resource rich, but indolent; eventually, broke.

Oct 6, 2007 12:06 PM

SoCal Pir8 :

Finally, an analysis I can trust.

Oct 6, 2007 01:12 PM

jdg :

What is the best way for America to increase the number of soldiers without jeopardizing the quality of our military?

Oct 6, 2007 01:20 PM

Stephen Rittenberg :

Thank you Professor Hanson. The fantasy of a unified Iraq is NOT worth the life of one of the great young Americans you met. However, removing the threat posed by Saddam was wise. The task of bringing death cult savages from the 8th century into the 21st is utopian and has not been worth the huge costs.

Oct 6, 2007 02:05 PM

Paul Lynch :

I truly appreciate your trenchant observations and articulate conclusions. I am from a diferent generation perhaps - I did like your postscript, but feel "moral upper crust" must be replaecd by "moral backbone".

Thank you for your insight.

Oct 6, 2007 02:30 PM

Papa Ray :

VDH, it makes my day to hear you praise our American Military.

I only wish that I had read or heard such, forty some odd years ago.

It might have changed my life and those around me.

If you have a young warrior tell you something in the heat of the battle, you can take it to the bank, because he ain't gonna bullsh!t you or himself at that time.

Not saying he would later, but I've been there and know from what I speak.

Looking forward to your future dispatches. Take care and remember, that today is the day that you need to savor, because tomorrow may never come.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

Oct 6, 2007 04:38 PM

buddy larsen :

''...the moral upper crust of American society''

Damn, somebody finally SAID it. Amen.

Oct 6, 2007 04:54 PM

golfmann [TypeKey Profile Page]:

A pleasure to read good news first hand.

Thank you for the report, sir.

Oct 6, 2007 05:19 PM

dougf :

"Our army and marines are far too few and overextended. The United States must either radically increase the size of these traditional ground units or scale back its commitments in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East."

Well then why are troops still sitting in Europe and Korea ? What purpose do the 50,000 troops in Korea serve ? Were I magically to be President for a day, they would start pulling out the day after tomorrow. Let South Korea deal with the Korean 'problem'. They seem to think they have all the answers.

If the forces are so stretched, then let's get real about the real priorities.

Oct 6, 2007 05:24 PM

Papa Ray :

VDH, it makes my day to hear you praise our American Military.

I only wish that I had read or heard such, forty some odd years ago.

It might have changed my life and those around me.

If you have a young warrior tell you something in the heat of the battle, you can take it to the bank, because he ain't gonna bullsh!t you or himself at that time.

Not saying he would later, but I've been there and know from what I speak.

Looking forward to your future dispatches. Take care and remember, that today is the day that you need to savor, because tomorrow may never come.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

Oct 6, 2007 05:36 PM

Rob Mandel :

Professor,

I spent some time rereading Thucydides recently (sadly, I must rely on the translation) and recall how even after the disaster at Sicily, the overthrow of the democracy and installation of an oligarchy, they not only recovered their democracy, but also their will to fight. They almost had the war won after Cynossema had not the Persians bankrolled the Spartans. It was only their bankruptcy that ended the war for them after Agespotami. Thus, it strikes me as sadly and tragically similar that we have now turned the corner, not just in Iraq, but perhaps in the global war on terror, while our financial house is crumbling.

The ability of the Athenians to muster soldiers and sailors of the caliber they did, most of whom had to be born long after the war began, is truly a most remarkable statement. Yet, wasn't it as much domestic squabbling by politicians seeking to gain at the expense of tragedy, post victory, that did in the late surge?

How ironic the sound, senators attacking generals in the midst of a dramatic surge. I don't doubt our ability to fight, but rather our ability to wage war. While the democrats campaign on who can exit the fastest, their real concern is how they can give more and more of our wealth away to the elderly, the poor, the illegal, to anyone with their hand out. All the while we run massive deficits and watch the disintegration of the American labor force, and the flaunting of our laws and our sovereignty. It seems that the war in Iraq is more a distraction, not from al Qaeda, but from their socialist, utopian vision.

You remain ever the optimist. I hope I can remain so as well.

Oct 6, 2007 05:48 PM

rockdalian :

Thank you. Not much more to say.

Oct 6, 2007 06:04 PM

Donald Owen :

Speaking as a Viet Nam vet the sheer proffesionalism of the curent soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan continues to amaze me on a daily basis. God bless these young men and women for their selfless efforts to defend this country despite the totally undeserved and cruel criticisms of our own Congressmen and women, and of the members of the US Senate.

It constantly amazes me when I talk to other Nam Vets a generation that was rejected by this country that I never find any that are bitter about what was done to us. The bitterness that most feel is toward those who try to denigrate the service of our troops who are putting their lives on the line this very day. This time those of us who served in Nam will not allow this denigration of these fine young people to happen without protest. The Vietnam Veterans of America organization that is currently planning to desecrate the Wall in Washington DC for the second time this year by inviting Sen John Kerry to speak at the 25th aniversary of the wall in no way represents the feelings of VietNam veterans. Sen. John Kerry will find that the veterans stand fully against him due to his daily denegration of the efforts of todays fine soldiers in behalf of this country.

John Kerry betrayed his fellow soldiers in Nam in sworn testimony in front of the US Senate in 1970 and has continued to denegrate the American soldier since then. His hatred for the American Soldier has never been more clear than it is today. This time his evil vile will not be allowed to harm the fine young men and women returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Oct 6, 2007 06:08 PM

Douglas R. Pratt :

Thank you, sir, for providing ammunition to those of us fighting on the home front who are unable to go to Iraq ourselves.

And thank you for "How the West Has Won," which I just finished. Nothing short of brilliant.

Oct 6, 2007 06:35 PM

Joshua A. Lineberry :

I am really looking forward to what you have to say.

Oct 6, 2007 06:50 PM

AndyJ :

I am glad to see more recognition for the middle management...the senior non-coms and officers below Colonel.
This is our core and heart of our military. They are the skeleton a larger military will be built upon. Too bad the Clintons RIF'ed so many Captains and Majors... But Colonels get to be Generals by playing politics. We have a lot of garrison Colonels who are playing it safe making sure they're inline for promotion when this is over...

The ground forces are so much better than we were in the Vietnam era. We had more in common with the Civil War soldier than we do with these guys... We were 90-day shake-n-bake wonders from high school graduation to hospital in 100 days... And we rotated thru so often that Charlie just waited and tried old tricks on new guys again and again. We were led by ticket-punchers who needed some holes punched on their way to retirement.

These guys are smarter, better trained, in better condition, better equipped, better led, and better cared for... It's a new world in an old business... Somethings never change, but a lot of the stuff is helping them be so much better than we ever dreamed of being...

Our Friends in Russia and China are studying this very very carefully... They have none of the capabilities, none of the core competencies, not as much technology and not near the same medical support... They are wondering how much our experience would help us vs their willingness to die... There will be surprises, but the adaptability we have demonstrated will make them cautious...

Maybe some of our garrison politicians could be planning the next war vs jockeying for the highest rank on the way out...

Oct 6, 2007 07:57 PM

Neo-andertal :

“Almost all the Marines and Army units I visited from Ramadi to Taji to various hot spots in Baghdad and Diyala believe there has been a sudden shift in the pulse of battlefield.”

You could say the same about the belts west and south of Baghdad from Abu Gharib to Salman Pak and Arab Jabor. Bill Roggio has written extensively about the area in “The Long War Journal”. I must say he doesn’t explicitly state that this is a sudden shift in the war but provides a good deal of evidence that points in that direction. It is highly recommended reading.

I believe Victor has correctly pointed to our current resource limitations in taking full advantage of this change in events. The movement of events seems to have passed by doubts that cooperation would be forthcoming in mixed Sunni – Shiite areas. The Anbar salvation movement, that was a glad surprise this spring, has quickly grown from a small storm to a regional flood. US and IA forces are stretching as much as possible to accommodate this new cooperation. Those of you who want to know how the next step shapes up should take a look at Bill Ardolino’s article on security arrangements in Fallujah Here: [www.longwarjournal.org/archives/...] & Here: [www.longwarjournal.org/archives/...] That should give an idea of what more formal security arrangements look like after some development.


As things are, I think that the military recognizes this opportunity and is doing everything possible to seize the day. It is unfortunate that the current political environment prevents dedicating even more troops to the effort. Under better circumstances they would be bringing in every warm body they can muster to make the most of the momentum that has been generated.

Oct 6, 2007 08:59 PM

Richard Quigley :

Thank you sir. As others have said, opinion one can trust, uncoloured observations.
We will be grateful for more.

Oct 6, 2007 09:43 PM

Neo :

The link I provided to Bill Ardolino’s articles about Fallujah will work if typed into the browser exactly as shown. For some reason using the link inserts an extra (percent20).
Probably some goofy thing about pasting the link into Microsoft Word before transferring it to the comment box. Word has a tendency to add hidden characters like that.

Oct 7, 2007 12:44 AM

BMOON :

VICTOR,
Know that far more people listen to you than is revealed on this reponse section. I bumped into Gov. Rick Perry of Texas at a booksigning for Marcus Lutrell who wrote Lone Survivor. When I mentioned that I had had a couple of article published in pajamas media, he immediately said, "Oh Yea, Victor David Hanson. Read him all the time."

You are a voice who causes currents under the surface. Believe me on that one. These observations from Iraq I trust will make some waves.

Oct 7, 2007 12:46 AM

Anonymous :

Thank you for going to Iraq, for your honesty and for your respect for our courageous Warriors. There are many of us who depend on your insight and perception.

Oct 7, 2007 06:09 AM

David Thomson :

"...while our financial house is crumbling."

America's financial house is not crumbling! The exact opposite is the truth of the matter. We are a very wealthy nation---and getting wealthier. Moreover, much of this growth has occurred under the George W. Bush administration. You are a victim of a scam job by the leftist establishment to help the Democrats in the 2008 elections.

Oct 7, 2007 06:12 AM

Dennis O'Keefe :

VDH: Thank You for a fine job of reporting. I trust your comments and observations in contrast to most of the traditional media.

Oct 7, 2007 06:42 AM

Jerry Greenhoot :

"one wonders whether the entire country of Iraq is worth the loss of just of these unusual Americans. I understand both the lack of logic and perhaps amorality in such a sweeping statement, but feel it nonetheless out here."

Indeed....that IS a reasonable thought...but, I'd extend it to the rest of our "friends." Just who is "worth" those guys? The hateful Anti-American Germans? Koreans?

Following your thought to a conclusion...if we leave Iraq, we ought to leave the rest too. Let them fight their own goddam battles...stew in their own juices, and go to Hell.

Oct 7, 2007 07:07 AM

Sister Rosetta :

"...one wonders whether the entire country of Iraq is worth the loss of just of these unusual Americans."

You do these unusual Americans a disservice with this kind of rhetoric. Just honor their service.

Oct 7, 2007 08:04 AM

John hennessy :

Day after Day I think of the wisdon of general George Washington's quiet but forceful insistance that the president be the commander in chief. This statement made early in the forming of our "better republic" after victory for independence represents the congressionally componded pain and agony he and the continental army endured during our fight for independence. The mutinies, lack of pay, and waning resolve during the war of independence, and Congress's impact on these events were well understood by Washington. It was clear to General Washington that the conduct of war could not be controlled by congress and it is clear today the wisdom and insistance of general Washington was wise. Considering the battles at the Cornfield, Casserine pass, Anzio, Guadalcanal, Tet, ad infinitum, where would we be as a nation if our Congress ran these wars.

Thank you general and President George Washington for the forsight and perseverence to this greatest of causes... America.

Thank you VDH for your work, I still want to have that cup of coffee with you and drink plenty of water to keep them Kidney stones where they are.

John

Oct 7, 2007 09:11 AM

willis :

"one wonders whether the entire country of Iraq is worth the loss of just of these unusual Americans. I understand both the lack of logic and perhaps amorality in such a sweeping statement, but feel it nonetheless out here."

No the entire country of Iraq is not worth such a loss. But the entire country of Iraq is not what we are fighting for. We are fighting for all that we hold dear; things such as freedom and democracy. Those willing to wage the fight are few and not everyone among them are so committed. To establish another base in addition to Israel from which freedom can survive and expand is a race against time before the freedom-hating left gains sway. Thus we must sacrifice anything and everything before our efforts are extinguished, perhaps forever.

Oct 7, 2007 09:25 AM

Ron Snyder :

Sister Rosetta: You do not have the right to speak for "these unusual Americans". Peddle your moral/ethical pronouncements elsewhere.

Oct 7, 2007 10:29 AM

Neo-andertal :

"...one wonders whether the entire country of Iraq is worth the loss of just of these unusual Americans."

I think it’s fair to question whether the war is worth the sacrifices, even if you generally support the effort. Of course accepting a more purely defensive security posture much like the Europeans have, comes with it’s own set of problems too. For instance, do we accept the sort of permanent terrorism problem that others new endure in the Middle East, Western Europe, Russia, India, North and Central Africa, Central Asia and South East Asia. By contrast do Australia, North East Asia, and much of the Western Hemisphere have much lower levels of terrorism (with a few hot spots). With the exception of China, which can take care of itself, the areas I have just listed enjoy the benefit of our security umbrella. Perhaps many of you discount the possibility of terrorism spreading to these other regions. I don’t. I believe it could be argued that terrorism is on the upswing and still could very well become the norm throughout the world.

Than of course there is the question of energy supplies and free shipping lanes. Anyone enamored with the idea of going back to a pre-global economy and defense posture should consider the era of great powers at the beginning of the 20th century, with their vulnerable localized economies, competition and interference with resources, and continually shifting defensive alliances. The era of great powers ended so well, if I remember my history correctly. The vulnerability of localized economies would be an issue most haven’t even begun to fathom. Least to say, the horrendous economic collapse it would take to get there.

I think Mr. Hason is speaking more from a position of empathy for the sacrifices of our troops, rather than contemplate the cost of retreat from Iraq, or the more generalized ramifications of global retreat.

Oct 7, 2007 01:07 PM

remi :

great post. I've not seen a new post today! : (

i hope that you are healed up by now too!

Oct 7, 2007 04:27 PM

TS Alfabet :

To echo Neo's thought about sending every warm body we can find to further our growing success in Iraq, I would add that, if we can't send the additional personnel to Iraq, let's at least send as much additional funding to the local and regional commanders in Iraq who will know best how to use it wisely to keep the local security forces on the payroll and keep local development projects moving forward.

pardon the run-on.

Oct 8, 2007 06:55 AM

Kevin :

VDH. Thank you for the time and effort you spent "in country". With all the negatives the left is putting out, it's nice to hear an honest, trustworthy report. A vetran myself, I always make a point to thank them for their service to their country, when I see them in uniform, or out of uniform... A vet can always tell whos in the military. They are truely the upper crust of our country.

Oct 8, 2007 07:12 AM

Susan C. :

Thank you so much for bringing the good news to us. The admiration you feel for those brave soldiers is obvious. How could one work amongst them and not be awestruck at how they conduct themselves under such crummy circumstances. They believe in what they are doing..and we believe in them. Thank you for going to the front lines..and writing about it as only you can do. Stay safe.

Susan

Oct 8, 2007 07:44 AM

Cornhead :

Here in Omaha, Nebraska I know fairly well one family that lost a son and one was from my Jesuit high school.

The first young man was starting quarterback on a very good high school football team. I coached baseball with his Dad and brother; his brother is a police sargent. Those two guys were just princes and I'm sure the son and brother was the same.

The other young man graduated from Omaha's Creighton Prep and was in the top 5 in academic rank in his class. That is a BIG DEAL. The top ten at Prep can name their college.

He went on to St. Louis University and learned to fly helicopters.

Losing two men like that makes me sick. That's why we MUST WIN.

Oct 8, 2007 07:49 AM

John Blake :

We hope that beginning in near future, our magnificent fighting forces will exert an influence akin to the GAR's after 1868. Excepting only two non-consecutive Cleveland administrations (Cleveland was born in New Jersey, not by any stretch a Southerner), veterans were a powerful force excluding heirs of the Copperhead "Peace Democrats" from national office until Woodrow Wilson in 1912.

Belying his intellectual credentials, despite Midwestern parentage in Illinois, Wilson advocated KKK "Birth of a Nation" terrorism. Caving to French revanchism at Versailles, obsessed with diluting American sovereignty behind a League of Nations facade, Wilson bears uncanny resemblance to Democrat principals (and principles) today.

America's true warriors battle for age-old ideals. We come as liberators, not as conquering imperialists: "Bearing Justice as Victory's trophy" (JPB, among lyrics to chorus from Sousa's "Stars and Stripes Forever" [qv]). Staving off our neo-Coms' bureaucratic, collectivist/Statist agenda in '08 would reinforce American exceptionalism-- a worldwide beacon of peace and prosperity lighting our Great Republic "if (we) can keep it".

Oct 8, 2007 09:23 AM

Mark Ugowski :

One of my nephews spent 3 years in Iraq and Afganhistan (sp) working for Haliburton and Parsons.

He came back and bought a business in the USA, which, after 9 months is going great guns.

He went over a college brain washed Kerry supporter..but wanted the $$$.

He came back a neo-con.

Amazing was EXPERIENCE does to one!

Dr. Ugowski

Oct 8, 2007 09:39 AM

pstexas :

Thank you for bringing the real news from Iraq. Thank you for all that you do to promote the truth. You can't trust the MSM for a honest accessment of the progress over there. I search for most of my news on military oriented and truthful journalists websites, such as this one.

I want the Troops to know that there are MANY Americans that support them and their mission in Iraq and Afganistan! (The MSM never reflects the truth about that either.)

God Bless the Brave Troops!
Thank you all for a job well done!

Oct 8, 2007 11:07 AM

MAJ Mike :

The overall strategy, i.e. toppling Sadaam and inserting a democracy in the heart of Islam, was nothing less than brillant and Wilsonian in its optimism. Unfortunately, we attempted to do it "on-the-cheap" without committing the full strength of the U.S. While the military went to war, the majority of the Americans went shopping.

Who'd have thought, that these people would've rather killed each other than grab onto the possiblity of building for themselves a literal paradise on earth?

Victory can still be accomplished. We've got to expand our military and continue to support our heroic warriors. They are more truely our "best and brightest".

Pray for victory and support the troops!

Oct 8, 2007 04:22 PM

Brian H :

The usual unremitting brilliance.

Susan C: IMO "brave" isn't really what amazed Victor. It's their depth of smarts and capability and sense that few appreciate. These guys have some of the best products of Western civilization occupying junior to high-ranking positions, and they bring far more than Basic Training or Officer School to the fight.

Oct 8, 2007 10:59 PM

Sandra M. Mendoza :

VDH: September 15, 2001 was one of the great days of my life, following that awful Monday when I witnessed my home town under Jihadist attack. I turned on C-Span and saw you (the intellectual history Professor I'd always sought and never found) at a Fresno bookstore signing for your superb CARNAGE AND CULTURE. I bought C&C and the terrific THE SOUL OF BATTLE (always loved George Patton). Since you started your web page, you're my first web stop on a daily basis. Thank you for your many contributions to out country's enlightenment.

Oct 9, 2007 10:48 AM

benjoya :

wow, what a spirited back and forth. deep, nuanced understanding of contrary positions and enlightened synthesis amid seemingly irreconcilable differences, all honestly held, the sort of intellectual stimulation one might have encountered in Voltaire's parlor, if you'll excuse my apporoving reference to a Frenchman. Yes, and best of all, no awed testimonials to the author's brilliance, but challenging, well-sourced arguments on the multivarious sides. a comprehensive view of the true complexity of the situation and not at all some sort of adolescent cheerleading.

i also concur with the many voices seeking substantial expansion of the military to relieve our current forces. while i am too old for the draft, and my children far too young, this is a big country and the pool of conscripts should be more than sufficient. who will lead the charge?

Oct 10, 2007 11:40 AM

cv :

Conscription is not necessary nor desired by the military. We have far to many troops in other parts of the world.

Oct 10, 2007 08:21 PM

TenRing :

Benjoya: "...this is a big country and the pool of conscripts should be more than sufficient. who will lead the charge?"

"...this is a big country and the pool of patriots should be more than sufficient. It is they who will lead the charge.

(fixed that for ya)

Oct 10, 2007 08:52 PM

Ken McNamara :

Stop a moment and consider.

The modern American soldier is held to a higher standard of behavior that ANY soldier in the history of the world - both ON and OFF the battlefield.

When you meet a member of the American military - you are meeting the best of the best.

Oct 11, 2007 07:23 PM

benjoya :

i mean "lead the charge to reinstate the draft"

i guess you did too. go charlie rangel!

Oct 12, 2007 02:33 PM

An American :

We don't hear/read about this in the Main Stream Media. Did you read this Mr. Reid, Mrs. Pelosi, Mr Murtha??????

Oct 12, 2007 06:11 PM

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